{"id":7624,"date":"2018-07-03T08:00:27","date_gmt":"2018-07-03T12:00:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/communityfirst\/?p=7624"},"modified":"2018-06-29T12:38:39","modified_gmt":"2018-06-29T16:38:39","slug":"expectations-and-timelines-when-working-with-a-post-secondary-institution","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/communityfirst\/2018\/expectations-and-timelines-when-working-with-a-post-secondary-institution\/","title":{"rendered":"Expectations and timelines when working with a post-secondary institution"},"content":{"rendered":"

by Chelsea Nash, CFICE Communications Research Assistant<\/em><\/p>\n

\"Rows<\/a>Post-secondary institutions have specific timelines, long processes for things like ethics approval or grant applications, and generally speaking, a complex power structure that can involve some firm top-down governance.<\/p>\n

These factors can easily complicate a campus-community partnership, particularly if the community partner is unsure or unfamiliar with how the academic environment functions. In CFICE\u2019s year four summary reports, community partners from multiple hubs expressed their frustration with the \u201cmismatched timelines between academic and community partnerships.\u201d<\/p>\n

Charles Levkoe, an academic co-lead with the CFICE project, said that his community counterpart often talked about how everything changed once they understood how the academic cycle worked.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s important for academic and community partners to be on the same page as much as possible in order to ensure an effective and fruitful partnership. For community organizations who have limited experience working with academic institutions, here are some things to expect when entering a partnership with a post-secondary institution.<\/p>\n

First steps when working with a post-secondary institution<\/strong><\/h2>\n
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Dr. Charles Levkoe, academic co-lead with the CFICE project.<\/p><\/div>\n

For those that have never partnered with an academic institution before and are completely unsure of what to expect, Dr. Levkoe suggests finding a broker organization as a first step. Broker organizations can sometimes be housed within post-secondary institutions themselves, and it is their job to be well-connected with the institution and with community organizations.<\/p>\n

Additionally, ensuring that your community organization finds the right person or people to work with is all about doing the research ahead of time, something Dr. Levkoe said a broker organization can be really helpful with.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

However, if you have your own relationships with people within a post-secondary institution, it might be best to start there instead. \u201cA lot of the best community-campus engagement work I\u2019ve seen goes through people,\u201d Dr. Levkoe said. \u201cThey know how I work, I know how they work, we have a trust that\u2019s built up. And those things don\u2019t come overnight,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n

Similarly, CFICE\u2019s year four summary reports echoed the importance of previously existing personal relationships as being important building blocks for any partnership.<\/p>\n

Have realistic expectations about timelines <\/strong><\/h2>\n

One academic partner in CFICE\u2019s Violence Against Women hub<\/a> said that often, community organizations have \u201cfairly unrealistic views of how quickly it can happen\u2026They don\u2019t know how long it takes to get ethics approval and they are frustrated by the delays. From their point of view it is just \u2018why don\u2019t you just get on with [it] and just do it!\u201d The academic partner here echoed concerns of a \u201ctimeline mismatch\u201d between the community and academic partners, but also acknowledged the unique time limitations that community partners experience, where \u201cpeople are so busy, so overwhelmed\u201d that the slow pace of academic research \u201cmakes them less interested in the actual research.\u201d<\/p>\n

\"Two<\/a>

Figuring out expectations and timelines are part of any good project.<\/p><\/div>\n

When discussing how community partners can manage their expectations when entering into a partnership with an academic institution, Dr. Levkoe said that understanding the university structure is a good place to start.<\/p>\n

\u201cThe university can be a very top-down institution that has a certain way of doing things. Faculty have some freedom within that structure but most are already involved in a range of work. For example, if someone asked me to do research with them, even if I love the project, I have classes I teach, I have students I\u2019m supervising and it\u2019s not something I can easily add to my plate. I need to plan ahead, I need to make time, make space, sometimes I need to apply for grants, and that can take up to a year.\u201d<\/p>\n

Academic timelines and community-campus engagement (CCE) projects<\/h2>\n

In most universities, the academic timeline consists of two main semesters of teaching, the first being from September through December, and the second from January through the end of May. Often, academics have more time to conduct research, or participate in CCE projects, during the summer months, when their teaching schedule is much less demanding.<\/p>\n

There are additional factors in academic timing that could impact when a grad student is hired for a research assistantship, for instance. And when it comes to sharing CCE project work, academic articles undergo a peer review process that makes publishing a lengthy process\u2014often up to two years of editing and revising before an article makes it to print.<\/p>\n

Exactly how these timelines could impact a project will vary depending on the institution and the academic partner, but being aware of the possibility that this four-month semester schedule could affect the flow and speed of a project can help to manage expectations.<\/p>\n

Ethics = longer CCE timelines but enhance research quality<\/h2>\n
\"A<\/a>

All projects are beholden to the project management triple constraint triangle. Projects can only adhere to two sides of the triangle at any given time.<\/p><\/div>\n

What is ultimately important to remember is that the reason a lot of things move slowly through academia is because there are high standards of rigor and ethics.<\/p>\n

\u201cI think ethics is a good thing,\u201d Dr. Levkoe said. \u201cIt\u2019s not perfect; there\u2019s lots of challenges\u2026but it helps to ensure there are checks and balances\u201d.<\/p>\n

As someone who has also worked in the non-profit sector for many years, Dr. Levkoe said in that sector, \u201cyou write a grant, you often find out relatively quickly [if you were successful], and then the program goes ahead or it doesn\u2019t. But academia works a bit differently.\u201d<\/p>\n

One way to effectively manage expectations is through outlining limitations and potential restrictions right off the bat. Partners in the Violence Against Women hub said that the first step in the partnership needed to be coming to a consensus about the structure, process, and goals for the hub. In this particular instance, because the CFICE project is funded by SSHRC, there were certain guidelines and pre-determined parameters on the process of the project that needed to be met. Clearly identifying these factors in advance was important to the community partners in this hub.<\/p>\n

Community organizations partnering with an academic institution should keep in mind that depending on where the grant or funding is coming from, asking questions and having a clear idea of any limitations the grant might have on the project can be very helpful to do in advance.<\/p>\n

Partnerships often extend beyond the ‘community-campus’ dichotomy<\/strong><\/h2>\n
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The Food Secure Canada team poses for a picture. \u00a9Abra Brynne<\/p><\/div>\n

\u201cWe have to be careful about talking about communities and academics as being two separate things,”\u00a0Dr. Levkoe said. “As academics, we are also community members.\u201d<\/p>\n

He said his engagement with the community involves sitting on boards, working with organizations \u201cnot necessarily as part of my research program, but as part of my service to the community, as part of my application of the stuff I\u2019m reading and writing.\u201d And, often times, he said he is the one who approaches community organizations to engage in a partnership.<\/p>\n

\u201cThis relationship is really dynamic and evolving, it\u2019s not straight forward at all,\u201d Dr. Levkoe said. But being \u201crealistic about what can happen\u201d is a good place to start.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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